Join Mikko Salo, the 2009 CrossFit Games champion, on his road trip across America—but this trip isn’t quite the same as the CrossFit Journal’slast Road Trip with Dave Lipson, Rob Orlando and Dave Castro. A man of few words, Salo is rarely distracted from his quest to better his training.

Salo’s journey continues at Rogue Fitness, home of 2010 Games championGraham Holmberg. The two champions talk about the future of the Games.

“The events, everything every year changes, so you’re going to see a different blend of winners,” Holmberg says.

With four editions of the Games behind us now, the question is always, “Who’s going to be the first person to do it twice?”

“I want to prove to people I can do it twice,” Salo says.

Both Salo and Holmberg share the desire to become better CrossFitters.

“If we get better, we might win the Games, and that’s like the bonus,” Salo says. “There’s always something to do, some things that you can do better and be better at.”

“Perfection is not attainable,” Holmberg agrees.

Watch this video in the CrossFit Journal.